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Is MAN becoming redundant? (LINK)

February 19th 2008 02:10
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We have already begun to reverse engineer the brain.

If we separate this task into two broad categories - hardware and software - both have progressed very far but still have a long way to go.


By “hardware” I mean how the neurons and other brain cells work together to create memory, information processing, and sensory perception - how does the brain physically work.

By “software” I mean what information is actually in the brain and how that information and different processing areas work together to produce the net effects of mood, thought, and behavior.

Our understanding of the hardware of the brain is already highly detailed, but it is complex. We know how neurons conduct signals, how those signals affect the firing of other neurons, how neurotransmitters work, how neuronal function is modulated by other neurons and other brain cells (like astrocytes), and how the strength of neuronal connections relate to memory.

However, the more we look the more layers of complexity to all of these things we find. And we have only begun to explore how patterns of neuronal activity relate to specific cognitive functions.

Understanding the software of the brain is harder, but recent progress has been accelerating, due largely to improved technology, like functional MRI scanning. We are actually well on our way to reverse engineering the brain.


Ray Kurzweil, controversial author of The Singularity and an expert on artificial intelligence and future technology, believes that we will succeed in creating human-level artificial intelligence by 2029 - 21 years from now.

He extrapolates from current progress that we will have both powerful enough computers and sophisticated enough software to create artificial intelligence in about two decades.

Kurzweil has clearly thought in great detail about this question - the 2029 figure is not a casual guess. But even if we assume that his estimates are off by half, that means that we will achieve this goal by 2050, still only halfway through the 21st century.

The hardware extrapolation seems to be the easier of the two - computer technology has been progressing at a very steady and predictable rate for decades (a phenomenon known as Moore’s Law).

Extending this for another couple of decades does not seem like much of a stretch.

MIT researcher Tomaso Poggio’s research is at the core of this question. He has been engaged in two parallel lines of research - using computer software to model brain function and using our understanding of brain function to improve computer software.

At the AAAS meeting this past weekend he explained how he is now combining these two lines of research into one. He came to this conclusion after a computer model of the human visual system he was working on was actually able to function as an artificially intelligent visual recognition system superior to previous such computer systems. He is quoted as saying:

“My perspective changed in a dramatic way. It meant that we may be closer to understanding how the visual cortex recognizes objects and scenes than I ever thought possible.”

Computers are now powerful enough that we can run virtual simulations of our current models of brain organization and function. This is therefore a new tool to test our hypotheses about brain function. And at the same time, as a bonus, these computer models can actually function on their own as computer systems. This is similar to using a computer to model how a grandmaster plays chess and in so doing creating a computer program that can actually play chess.

Fast forward 21 years and (Ray Kurzweil predicts) we will have accurate computer models of brain structure and function that will not only simulate brain function - they will be functional artificial brains.

Reverse engineering the brain and creating human-level artificial intelligence are tasks that will progress in parallel - each playing off the other. In fact (as with Poggio’s research) these two tasks will be one and the same research program.

Material and expression moderately adapted from NeuroLocica blog by Steven Novella ( link attached at top).

So, once more I pose the question, is man becoming redundant? but there is much here that is speculative and controversial but none the less I think most of us quite readily accept that many of our functions have already been replaced.


Maybe, believe in the Almighty is not a bad way to go. It seems we'll have little else to put our faith in.


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Comment by Louie

February 19th 2008 04:14
NEVER...we will blow ourselves up first

Comment by katyzzz

February 19th 2008 06:22
Louie, well I guess it's a good thing then.

Amy, next time it will be you, but you'll be easily replaced.

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Comment by Holly Go Lightly

February 19th 2008 09:21
Oh, no, I haven't found one yet.

And, well, I mean, well....you can't cuddle with a computer can you?

Comment by katyzzz

February 19th 2008 20:20
Well, it wouldn't be very comfortable would it Holly.

Comment by Lilla

February 19th 2008 22:52
Interesting post Katyzzz,

I am left shivering, thinking of Wil Smith in I ROBOT, and how I would distrust such a 'beast' .... but that is without adding humour to the situation, which can help solve the shivers, I guess... but seriously, deep down, I hope to see it, because Louie is wrong, not because Kurzweil is right ... but I have to ask why, as a species who has everything we need supplied by the earth, do we need to do this?

Perhaps (as my daughters have recently observed) MAN is a genetic mutation (from woman), and not the evolutionary next step, as some would have us think.

2029 sure looks set to be a funny year if we get there, doesn't it?

Lilla ...

Comment by katyzzz

February 19th 2008 23:07
Yes, Lilla, getting to 2029 in any shape or form does seem to be a consideration.

It is worrying as I think MAN deserves more than being a servant for a computer which so many have already become, computerisation was claimed to be going to set man free, instead he's been required to work longer and longer with less time to attend to his/her family needs and children seem to re rearing themselves nowadays, if you could call what they are experiencing rearing.

These things are a worry, will there be a new age revolution, that will surely lead to more bloodshed.

The wealthy are really STINKINGLY wealthy and often do little to deserve it, just play tricks which most of us would find distasteful, to say the least.

Glad to have your views.

Comment by Techno

February 20th 2008 03:30
Geez, surely you girls would not want to replace ME?

Comment by Miswanderlust

February 23rd 2008 03:07
Katyzzz
Very thought provoking post!
Mis

Comment by katyzzz

February 23rd 2008 03:53
No, techno, a few young blades for entertainment will do.

Yes, Mis, I think it is closer than we realize.

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